Senin, 24 November 2008

Defining the Win

In March I posted Ten Themes From Recent Conferences, which included the following:

Permanent compromise is the norm, so accept it. I used to think digital defense was a cycle involving resist -> detect -> respond -> recover. Between recover and the next attack there would be a period where the enterprise could be considered "clean." I've learned now that all enterprises remain "dirty" to some degree, unless massive and cost-prohibitive resources are directed at the problem.

We can not stop intruders, only raise their costs. Enterprises stay dirty because we can not stop intruders, but we can make their lives more difficult. I've heard of some organizations trying to raise the $ per MB that the adversary must spend in order to exfiltrate/degrade/deny information.‏
(emphasis added)

Since then I've grappled with this idea of how to define the win. If you used to define the win as detecting and ejecting all intruders from your enterprise, you are going to be perpetually disappointed (unless your enterprise is sufficiently small). Are there are alternative ways to define the win if you have to accept permanent compromise as the norm? The following are a few ideas, credited where applicable.

The first two come from my post Intellectual Property: Develop or Steal, but I repost them here for easy reference.


  1. Information assurance (IA) is winning, in a broad sense, when the cost of stealing intellectual property via any means is more expensive than developing that intellectual property independently. Nice idea, but probably too difficult to measure.

  2. IA is winning, in a narrow sense, when the cost of stealing intellectual property via digital means is more expensive than stealing that data via nontechnical means (such as human agents placed inside the organization). Still difficult to measure, but might be estimated using red teaming/adversary simulation/penetration testing.

  3. IA is winning when detection operations can see the adversary's actions. This relates to Bruce Schneier's classic advice to Monitor First. The more mature answer is next.

  4. IA is winning when incident responders can anticipate the adversary's next target. I credit Kevin Mandia with this idea. I like it because it shows that complex enterprises will always have vulnerabilities and will always be targeted, but a sufficiently mature detection and response operation will at least be able to guess the intruder's next move. You can even test this by keeping a track record.

  5. IA is winning when the time to detect and remediate has been reduced to B. Insert your own value there. You can track your progress from time A to time B.

  6. IA is winning when your enterprise security integrity assessments show less than D percent of your assets are compromised. You can track progress from C percent to D percent over time. This leads to the more mature version which follows.

  7. IA is winning when your enterprise intrusion debt is reduced to F. You can measure intrusion debt as you like and take steps to reduce it from E to F.


Does anyone else have ideas on how to define the win?


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