First Two SANS GSEs

I just read in the latest SANS Training and GIAC Certification Update that two candidates, named as John P. Jenkinson (described as a contractor for SAIC) and Lenny Zeltser (a consultant and one of the authors of Inside Network Perimeter Security) are the first two SANS "GSEs," or "GIAC Security Experts." (GIAC now stands for Global Information Assurance Certification, although in late 1999 it meant Global Incident Analysis Center.) Congratulations, guys! It looks like they both started at the bottom of the six-rung GSE ladder with the GIAC Security Essentials Certification (GSEC). Neither appears to be a GIAC Certified Forensic Analyst (GCFA), which isn't required for the GSE cert.