Senin, 24 Mei 2010

More on Black Hat Costs

About a year ago I wrote Black Hat Budgeting, explaining how an offensive security team might spend $1 million. I said

"I submit that for $1 million per year an adversary could fund a Western-salaried black hat team that could penetrate and persist in roughly any target it chose to attack."

Tonight Jeremiah Grossman asked via Twitter:

jeremiahg@taosecurity regarding black hat budgeting, does defense-in-depth exacerbate the value cost inequity for defenders http://is.gd/cnGW9

I was tempted to squeeze some sort of reply into less than 140 characters, but decided to answer here instead.


  • First, vulnerability research is not free. Funny enough the No More Free Bugs movement is about one year old now. Charlie, Dino, and Alex are right -- it costs real resources to find vulnerabilities in software, with the level depending on the target.

  • Second, exploit development is not free. It is not trivial to devise a reliable, multi-target, stealthy-if-necessary exploit for a discovered vulnerability. Projects like Metasploit have made it a little easier since the days of one-off code for every proof of concept. Still, professional exploit writers still spend a lot of time on Metasploit, commercial alternatives, or their own mechanisms.

  • Third, victim management is not free. Everyone likes to talk about "risk management." Let's flip that notion around and think from the intruder's perspective. One of the features separating amateurs from professionals is the degree to which the intruder can manage his or her presence in the victim enterprise. The greater the persistence of the intruder the more professional the intruder, almost by definition. It takes a decent amount of work to stay present and/or undetected in an enterprise, depending on the defender's capabilities.


So, black hats have a lot of costs to manage, beyond those in my original post. I can pretty confidently argue, however, that intruder costs are dwarfed by defender costs. To the extent that "defense in depth" (DiD) applies additional costs yet do not meaningfully reduce exposure and vulnerability, DiD does indeed "exacerbate the value cost inequity for defenders."

Aside: a quick way to identify ineffective DiD is to review network diagrams showing "firewall stacks." I mean, seriously, in 2010, who needs more than one "traditional" firewall on a network segment? 10 or more years ago I remember network security people thinking you needed multiple different firewalls to they would each "catch something different" or cover for errors. These days everyone lets 80 and 443 traverse the firewall so malicious traffic just uses those services. How much money is wasted on these "traditional" designs?

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